Thank you all for such a wonderful and simple analysis of the "subject" and
with special reference to Sartre. I am teaching a class the basics of
Post-Structuralism and this interaction has enriched me with another
argument about the subject and its shifting positions. Esp the missing
subject (like the God) within the syntagmatic structures also.
Sudip
On 8/18/05, michael bibby <shmickeyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for that Brad, the selection you forwarded onto
> me contains many of the elements which I have been
> studying in isolation (its a logical concomitant to
> Luther, Calvin, Perkins etc.). I also was going to
> send this reply privately but I, like you, struck upon
> something, in this connection, so richly poingant that
> I simply had to publish it (it cannot but interest
> those who take interest in Foucaults theme of 'the
> gaze').
>
> Shame, for Sarte, is the experience- which always
> catches up the subject it compromises by surprise- of
> an "internal hemorage": "the appearance of the Other
> in the world corresponds... to a fixed sliding of the
> whole universe." Sarte, in this connection, deploys
> the narrative of the man spying through the keyhole
> who suddenly becomes aware of himself as on
> object-in-the-world-for-others (an awareness enjoined
> with a guilt responce). A kind of copernican
> revolution: from a subject-centred universe to an
> object-centred universe. He summerises the situation
> thusly: "Shame before God; that is, the recognition of
> my being-an-object before a subject which can never be
> an object."
>
> I wont even attempt to draw out the implicate
> connections established here with Foucaults theme of
> 'recognition in a mirror' as laid out in his chapter
> on the birth of the asylum in Madness and
> Civilization, they should be obvious enough for those
> who are interested in establishing them.
>
>
>
>
> --- bradley nitins <b.nitins@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I know Michael personally, and i know that he has
> > been reading lately John
> > Bunyan's _Pilgram's Progress_ so i was going to send
> > this message
> > privately, but the following is such a great quote
> > from that book that i
> > thought i should share it with you all.
> >
> > "...we have right thoughts of God, when we think
> > that he knows us better
> > than we know ourselves, and can see sin in us when
> > and where we can see
> > none in ourselves; when we think he knows our inmost
> > thoughts, and that our
> > heart, with all its depths is always upon unto his
> > eyes; also when we think
> > that all our righteousness stinks in his nostrils,
> > and that therefore he
> > cannot abide to see us stand before him in any
> > confidence, even of all our
> > best performances"
> >
> > best
> > bradley
> >
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with special reference to Sartre. I am teaching a class the basics of
Post-Structuralism and this interaction has enriched me with another
argument about the subject and its shifting positions. Esp the missing
subject (like the God) within the syntagmatic structures also.
Sudip
On 8/18/05, michael bibby <shmickeyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for that Brad, the selection you forwarded onto
> me contains many of the elements which I have been
> studying in isolation (its a logical concomitant to
> Luther, Calvin, Perkins etc.). I also was going to
> send this reply privately but I, like you, struck upon
> something, in this connection, so richly poingant that
> I simply had to publish it (it cannot but interest
> those who take interest in Foucaults theme of 'the
> gaze').
>
> Shame, for Sarte, is the experience- which always
> catches up the subject it compromises by surprise- of
> an "internal hemorage": "the appearance of the Other
> in the world corresponds... to a fixed sliding of the
> whole universe." Sarte, in this connection, deploys
> the narrative of the man spying through the keyhole
> who suddenly becomes aware of himself as on
> object-in-the-world-for-others (an awareness enjoined
> with a guilt responce). A kind of copernican
> revolution: from a subject-centred universe to an
> object-centred universe. He summerises the situation
> thusly: "Shame before God; that is, the recognition of
> my being-an-object before a subject which can never be
> an object."
>
> I wont even attempt to draw out the implicate
> connections established here with Foucaults theme of
> 'recognition in a mirror' as laid out in his chapter
> on the birth of the asylum in Madness and
> Civilization, they should be obvious enough for those
> who are interested in establishing them.
>
>
>
>
> --- bradley nitins <b.nitins@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I know Michael personally, and i know that he has
> > been reading lately John
> > Bunyan's _Pilgram's Progress_ so i was going to send
> > this message
> > privately, but the following is such a great quote
> > from that book that i
> > thought i should share it with you all.
> >
> > "...we have right thoughts of God, when we think
> > that he knows us better
> > than we know ourselves, and can see sin in us when
> > and where we can see
> > none in ourselves; when we think he knows our inmost
> > thoughts, and that our
> > heart, with all its depths is always upon unto his
> > eyes; also when we think
> > that all our righteousness stinks in his nostrils,
> > and that therefore he
> > cannot abide to see us stand before him in any
> > confidence, even of all our
> > best performances"
> >
> > best
> > bradley
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Foucault-L mailing list
> >
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Photos: Now with unlimited storage
> http://au.photos.yahoo.com
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>
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